kms
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Post by kms on Mar 27, 2015 10:15:51 GMT
I have a ninja with the following gear
Koda 2 (Ganei)
Schwartz 3 (Ganei) / Exelis 3 (Magonza) <-- what I switch for 1 HP
G Ring (Ganei) / Green Cat Ears (Ganei)
D Newt bangle (WOL)
----- Un used gear ----
Koda 2 (Clean)
Tunic (HP20%)
Ultimi (Clean)
G Ring (Veltria)
Schwartz (Clean)
S Bangle
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I can easily make a 1 hp and clone effectively. But i always have a problem with bosses which do not like 1 HP (Altan, Stormia, Beelzedam, Gerust etc). so how do you make a minimum HP ninja that can still clone without having to reach 1 HP. If you guys are doing it then would like to hear from you on how to do and what to switch.
Thanks in advance
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Roxzen
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Post by Roxzen on Mar 27, 2015 10:25:05 GMT
With bosses that have attacks that go through clones I have my hp above 1, most of the time around 200-400 is good for me on the bosses you mention, also with Beelezedam I never doc as my first move
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kms
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Post by kms on Mar 27, 2015 10:37:57 GMT
With bosses that have attacks that go through clones I have my hp above 1, most of the time around 200-400 is good for me on the bosses you mention, also with Beelezedam I never doc as my first move was just curious from the video you posted for the enpedracul 2 threadd. the ninja had a hp of 32 and was good with that through the fight. how to achieve that kind of hp and cloning and what gear to use is the cause for my confusion. |
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Roxzen
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Goodbye :) Thanks for the memories Iruna, the Forums was an awesome place!
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Post by Roxzen on Mar 27, 2015 11:10:44 GMT
With bosses that have attacks that go through clones I have my hp above 1, most of the time around 200-400 is good for me on the bosses you mention, also with Beelezedam I never doc as my first move was just curious from the video you posted for the enpedracul 2 threadd. the ninja had a hp of 32 and was good with that through the fight. how to achieve that kind of hp and cloning and what gear to use is the cause for my confusion. Well from what I saw she basically had just about 10% left with her switch gear on to make 9 clones, also from what I can see she probably has atleta ring on as well Just now I was testing my luck on Oritius solo, My equips atm are Emperdacle 2 S/no xtal, Battle Claw Max Ganei, Schwartz Up Ganei, Ultimi magonza, G.ring Ganei, B.Surcoat Vida, and Atleta ns xD I was able to clone with Emperdacle 2, Ultimi and B.Surcoat with around 128? Hp left, so Im guessing my max hp with that set is close to 1.3k+ Also with my attack intervals being cut now, my atleta ring's hp consume proc occurs pretty often which helps me with my cloning lol What Im planning on doing now is... getting autoskill lvl 5 in my Battle Surcoat (or a better add with more crt dmg), as well as my accessory to allow all my autoskills to proc more often. Like Ni-Rengeki, WoL, or Atleta xD Also that was Pein who posted it not me xD |
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kms
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Post by kms on Mar 27, 2015 12:36:24 GMT
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Post by Jeancarlo on Mar 27, 2015 16:47:36 GMT
I have a ninja with the following gear Koda 2 (Ganei) Schwartz 3 (Ganei) / Exelis 3 (Magonza) <-- what I switch for 1 HP G Ring (Ganei) / Green Cat Ears (Ganei) D Newt bangle (WOL) ----- Un used gear ---- Koda 2 (Clean) Tunic (HP20%) Ultimi (Clean) G Ring (Veltria) Schwartz (Clean) S Bangle ---- I can easily make a 1 hp and clone effectively. But i always have a problem with bosses which do not like 1 HP ( Altan, Stormia, Beelzedam, Gerust etc). so how do you make a minimum HP ninja that can still clone without having to reach 1 HP. If you guys are doing it then would like to hear from you on how to do and what to switch. Thanks in advance Never tried it myself, but NIN are supposed to be able to use Desperate move At 90% (as in exactly 90%, not an iota above or below it) Koda2 Ganei -30% Schwartz (no up, no ganei) -30% Cat Ear (don't believe has any -hp?) Ganei - 30% See if you can clone with those? That should leave you with more than 1 HP while cloning. IF AT 90% doesn't work, you'll need to slot an xtal that drops less than 10% and add it in to the mix. |
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kms
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Post by kms on Mar 30, 2015 12:34:55 GMT
I have a ninja with the following gear Thanks in advance Never tried it myself, but NIN are supposed to be able to use Desperate move At 90% (as in exactly 90%, not an iota above or below it) Koda2 Ganei -30% Schwartz (no up, no ganei) -30% Cat Ear (don't believe has any -hp?) Ganei - 30% See if you can clone with those? That should leave you with more than 1 HP while cloning. IF AT 90% doesn't work, you'll need to slot an xtal that drops less than 10% and add it in to the mix. Jean - the problem is that I have to switch all the 3 to get to clone. even if i were to switch the schwatz no up (Ganei) with tunic (HP20%), the koda and the green cat ears contribute to the remaining (-60%) still. therefore the problem still exists. so probably one has to try something like a iron reup armor to test the above scenario , but then u lose on the other factors like exe3, magonza, skill delay etc. switching 3 gears is not an option in fight. there were a couple of JP videos where the ninja can clone continuously with minimum hp around 100 and max hp around ... well enough to clone in fights. |
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Post by Jeancarlo on Mar 30, 2015 23:08:29 GMT
Never tried it myself, but NIN are supposed to be able to use Desperate move At 90% (as in exactly 90%, not an iota above or below it) Koda2 Ganei -30% Schwartz (no up, no ganei) -30% Cat Ear (don't believe has any -hp?) Ganei - 30% See if you can clone with those? That should leave you with more than 1 HP while cloning. IF AT 90% doesn't work, you'll need to slot an xtal that drops less than 10% and add it in to the mix. Jean - the problem is that I have to switch all the 3 to get to clone. even if i were to switch the schwatz no up (Ganei) with tunic (HP20%), the koda and the green cat ears contribute to the remaining (-60%) still. therefore the problem still exists. so probably one has to try something like a iron reup armor to test the above scenario , but then u lose on the other factors like exe3, magonza, skill delay etc. switching 3 gears is not an option in fight. there were a couple of JP videos where the ninja can clone continuously with minimum hp around 100 and max hp around ... well enough to clone in fights. Sorry, didn't mean to imply you need to switch all those on the fly. Unfortunately, I meant getting a set that gets you to -90 and sticking with it, and just adding 1 more into the mix so you can get off the 90% for cloning. It won't be ideal obviously, but just something you kinda have to do for those special bosses. |
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Post by quitted on Mar 31, 2015 6:55:31 GMT
maybe this special equipment helps.my guildmate used to ask me cheap hp-% gears and i suggest him that.a drop by kijimu in leaf dragon boss in minuala
Amulet of bamboo
DEF: 0-3 items delay -0.5 seconds Max HP 15%
available: Kijimu Lv176 · 177 · 178
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kms
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Post by kms on Mar 31, 2015 8:25:50 GMT
thanks rantau. i already have more than 5 ganei loaded equipment. cloning or negative HP is not a problem.
achieving -90% HP with one equipment switch is what I would like some help with.
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Post by direfang on Mar 31, 2015 8:44:00 GMT
For my equipment Empedracle II Genai Schwartz Genai/ Iron Armor up HP+20%/ Ultimi Magonza <- switching equip Vanregal Vida/ Ghost Ring Vida <- if using ghost ring, i just switching ultimi and schwartz Dodge Charm WoL I don't like 1 hp left for my ninja, some boss can cut through my clones  |
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Post by Crysta| on Mar 31, 2015 11:58:35 GMT
Certain bosses (Gerust, Stormia, etc) can be easily killed leaving your Max HP = 1 set on through out the fight, cloning between battles. I know it's not ideal, but if it works... ^^
You could try:
Ultimi or Exelis/magonza
Ghost ring/ganei (-50%)
Curse nail/ganei (-45%) swapping to Koda 2/clean or any xtal except ganei for cloning.
-95% set, enough to clone but not leaving you on 1 hp.
Haven't tested it myself but that 5% could be enough to survive those clone piercing attacks.
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kms
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Post by kms on Apr 2, 2015 15:12:33 GMT
hmmm - now need to farm a curse nail slot and test this setup. will try a variation to the gear and see what is the outcome.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2015 18:50:06 GMT
Try using ATK abis, i heard it minuses your hp by 1% per tier level soooo... if you have lv 5 on weapon and lv 4 on addon/armor... you could try to make your hp -99% instead of going over 100% is what i think... 3 ganeis at the minimum considering you dont use any minus hp gears? Idk tho, haven't tested it and only watched it beforehand through jp vids... i'll have a look though to see if i can find out more about what she used
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arkiel
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Post by arkiel on Apr 3, 2015 23:06:25 GMT
Here's my setup.
Weapon : EmpedracleII (Ganei)
Armor : Schwartz ☆ ATK 2 (Ganei) / Ultimi ☆ HP 4 (Magonza)
Additional : Aldoor (Raton)
Special : DCS WOL
By switching Schwartz and Ultimi, -92%HP is possible. But the HP 4 ability is necessary for ultimi, or you could simply farm ATK abilities in armor or nail for switching purposes. (I'm just lazy lol).
With this setup, you would only need 2 ganei's. So you'll have the comfort of choosing other xtas on your equip and when doing the switch, my HP is at 207 so no problem with boses that kills instantly at 1HP.
Hope this helps.
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