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Post by MiLiGRiTo on Mar 30, 2015 4:01:47 GMT
I think Ill start playing this build for fun. VIT>INT>AGI(90) Im not decide for forth stat yet. Let me play it first. lol I plan to use Tech 5, 4, and 3 with AI crystal 3 red 2 blue to get 95% cri rate. All my equipment will be focused on +maxHP%. This build might not be tanky nor super good at dps, but it is perfect for lazy player like me. I don't have to use much revita because I won't use Guardian. Also, all of my mp will be used just for healing myself for high damage output. Lazy build for lazy player. lol Edited: Sorry for bump this old threat, but it is better to make a new one. You already are tanky once you max your VIT but yes, not super good at DPS, then again you can't expect much from a Pally. You do not need to have a 4th stat either. After you max over cap VIT, Max over cap INT and you will have few stats left anyway. You might want to squeeze some autoskill abilities if you plan to utilize lebenglanz.
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mokie
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Post by mokie on Mar 30, 2015 22:54:46 GMT
I have a question. Can Lebenglanz' autoskill proc rate be boosted by equipment or skill? Or is it fixed at about 33%?
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Post by Stacy's Mom on Mar 31, 2015 14:14:26 GMT
I think Ill start playing this build for fun. VIT>INT>AGI(90) Im not decide for forth stat yet. Let me play it first. lol I plan to use Tech 5, 4, and 3 with AI crystal 3 red 2 blue to get 95% cri rate. All my equipment will be focused on +maxHP%. This build might not be tanky nor super good at dps, but it is perfect for lazy player like me. I don't have to use much revita because I won't use Guardian. Also, all of my mp will be used just for healing myself for high damage output. Lazy build for lazy player. lol Edited: Sorry for bump this old threat, but it is better to make a new one. lebenglanz has a recoil effect.
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Post by mokie on Mar 31, 2015 21:54:04 GMT
I think Ill start playing this build for fun. VIT>INT>AGI(90) Im not decide for forth stat yet. Let me play it first. lol I plan to use Tech 5, 4, and 3 with AI crystal 3 red 2 blue to get 95% cri rate. All my equipment will be focused on +maxHP%. This build might not be tanky nor super good at dps, but it is perfect for lazy player like me. I don't have to use much revita because I won't use Guardian. Also, all of my mp will be used just for healing myself for high damage output. Lazy build for lazy player. lol Edited: Sorry for bump this old threat, but it is better to make a new one. lebenglanz has a recoil effect. You make me worry about this. After I read this, I tested it immediately, but I don't think it has. LOL My assassin's HP did not reduce any.
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mokie
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Post by mokie on Mar 31, 2015 21:56:21 GMT
You make me almost crazy about. I deleted my 181 samurai for playing this build. If it has that effect, I might delete my paladin again. >.<
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Post by MiLiGRiTo on Apr 1, 2015 1:55:16 GMT
lebenglanz has a recoil effect. I tried leben before and never noticed any recoil. I still find it hard to justify a leben build tho'. At 200kHP you can get 20k to 60k dmg (average of 40k) but the DPS just drops when you introduce proc rate and hit rate. Maybe with berserk or dual blow it can work although I'm not sure if it pierces armor (would be good if it did, because that is the only way I can justify the build).
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Post by Stacy's Mom on Apr 1, 2015 2:03:08 GMT
lebenglanz has a recoil effect. I tried leben before and never noticed any recoil. I still find it hard to justify a leben build tho'. At 200kHP you can get 20k to 60k dmg (average of 40k) but the DPS just drops when you introduce proc rate and hit rate. Maybe with berserk or dual blow it can work although I'm not sure if it pierces armor (would be good if it did, because that is the only way I can justify the build). last time i had one i noticed recoil, besides me taking tamage from the mobs, this was a long time ago so i could be wrong. as for the hit rate you can sacrifice hp abis and use crit rate with AI lines (we get more pages from what we know).
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Post by MiLiGRiTo on Apr 1, 2015 2:21:45 GMT
I tried leben before and never noticed any recoil. I still find it hard to justify a leben build tho'. At 200kHP you can get 20k to 60k dmg (average of 40k) but the DPS just drops when you introduce proc rate and hit rate. Maybe with berserk or dual blow it can work although I'm not sure if it pierces armor (would be good if it did, because that is the only way I can justify the build). last time i had one i noticed recoil, besides me taking tamage from the mobs, this was a long time ago so i could be wrong. as for the hit rate you can sacrifice hp abis and use crit rate with AI lines (we get more pages from what we know). Yeah but even assuming 100% hit rate and 200k HP assuming 30% proc rate, the average would be 40k dmg x 30% = 12kDPS. If you hit 2x per second then it would hit around 24k DPS (this is ok if it penetrates armor, which I never really tested). Whereas Guardian would hit 30k+ on single target. And I think you will need a 2s leben to hit 200k HP right now without going Kaise Pilz. Maybe in the future it might be worth considering. Anyway, I'll try to get a leben and test it out again.
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Post by mokie on Apr 1, 2015 3:29:16 GMT
last time i had one i noticed recoil, besides me taking tamage from the mobs, this was a long time ago so i could be wrong. as for the hit rate you can sacrifice hp abis and use crit rate with AI lines (we get more pages from what we know). Yeah but even assuming 100% hit rate and 200k HP assuming 30% proc rate, the average would be 40k dmg x 30% = 12kDPS. If you hit 2x per second then it would hit around 24k DPS (this is ok if it penetrates armor, which I never really tested). Whereas Guardian would hit 30k+ on single target. And I think you will need a 2s leben to hit 200k HP right now without going Kaise Pilz. Maybe in the future it might be worth considering. Anyway, I'll try to get a leben and test it out again. I feel funny with myself. After you say about penetrate, I mailed my Lebanglanz to my assassin again, and tested it (my pally's level is lower than 140). The answer is "yes, it is." Damage just depend on HP you have left, but I would say 10-25% instead. I didn't see it went to 30% at all. Anyway, I'm not sure about damage.
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Post by MiLiGRiTo on Apr 1, 2015 4:13:13 GMT
Yeah but even assuming 100% hit rate and 200k HP assuming 30% proc rate, the average would be 40k dmg x 30% = 12kDPS. If you hit 2x per second then it would hit around 24k DPS (this is ok if it penetrates armor, which I never really tested). Whereas Guardian would hit 30k+ on single target. And I think you will need a 2s leben to hit 200k HP right now without going Kaise Pilz. Maybe in the future it might be worth considering. Anyway, I'll try to get a leben and test it out again. I feel funny with myself. After you say about penetrate, I mailed my Lebanglanz to my assassin again, and tested it (my pally's level is lower than 140). The answer is "yes, it is." Damage just depend on HP you have left, but I would say 10-25% instead. I didn't see it went to 30% at all. Anyway, I'm not sure about damage. which high def boss did you test the damage?
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Post by MiLiGRiTo on Apr 1, 2015 7:06:41 GMT
Yeah but even assuming 100% hit rate and 200k HP assuming 30% proc rate, the average would be 40k dmg x 30% = 12kDPS. If you hit 2x per second then it would hit around 24k DPS (this is ok if it penetrates armor, which I never really tested). Whereas Guardian would hit 30k+ on single target. And I think you will need a 2s leben to hit 200k HP right now without going Kaise Pilz. Maybe in the future it might be worth considering. Anyway, I'll try to get a leben and test it out again. I feel funny with myself. After you say about penetrate, I mailed my Lebanglanz to my assassin again, and tested it (my pally's level is lower than 140). The answer is "yes, it is." Damage just depend on HP you have left, but I would say 10-25% instead. I didn't see it went to 30% at all. Anyway, I'm not sure about damage. So I bought a leben and tried it out with Eldas which I think has good DEF. The auto does penetrate through armor. I have only around 170k HP because the leben I got is only 1s. It hits mostly around 10k and occassionally above 30k, which suggests that the lowest it can hit is 5% HP (instead of 10%HP). So it's Maybe 5% to 25%. Took me around 3 to 4 berserks to kill Eldas which I don't think is too bad given that I can never kill anything with berserk XD. Of course I can still do him faster with guardian. I can see that this is particularly useful for soloing bosses that have high DEF (or DEF buffs that last for long periods.)I'm keeping leben now because I can see it will give me capability of lazy farming bosses with berserk. Although I'd still go for guardian when I'm active. Enchanters will still probably make better of this sword if they have problems piercing boss armors.P.S. I might have concluded the armor pierce prematurely as I have experienced 1 dmg auto on Magonja. Need to test further.
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Post by mokie on Apr 1, 2015 16:04:09 GMT
I see, so it is not penetrate. Look like, they are super complicated formula behind this damage.
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Post by MiLiGRiTo on Apr 1, 2015 22:53:00 GMT
I see, so it not penetrate. Look like, they are super complicated formula behind this damage. After a few more tests, the dmg formula maybe as simple as: (hp dmg - mob def) x element bonus i was able to break dmg over zazels barrier (but I only hit around 1k dmg, and that Is If I hit high. Most of the tine I hit 1dmg). Best dmg I have done Is 50k+ vs dark via gloria. now I wonder If It can hit critical. Need to test some more.
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Post by mokie on Apr 1, 2015 23:11:28 GMT
I see, so it not penetrate. Look like, they are super complicated formula behind this damage. After a few more tests, the dmg formula maybe as simple as: (hp dmg - mob def) x element bonus i was able to break dmg over zazels barrier (but I only hit around 1k dmg, and that Is If I hit high. Most of the tine I hit 1dmg). Best dmg I have done Is 50k+ vs dark via gloria. now I wonder If It can hit critical. Need to test some more. Awesome, I need element drink for this build.
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Post by mokie on Apr 1, 2015 23:14:41 GMT
One more, I don't think critical will higher it damage. If it did, my sin should hit more than my max hp easily.
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